Sorry, I have just been swamped up to my eyeballs with work and pushing little, old ladies into oncoming traffic. Y'all have done well in my absence. I have not had the time to figure out how I'm going to stir a bucket of dung over the religion debate, but trust me, I'm working on it.
To comment on the responses over my experience with public education and snatching my boy outta public school, let me say this. No one, I mean no one, is going to tell me how to raise my son. If you have ideas about how to raise your children, great. You raise yours and I'll raise mine.
That said, I attended public school back in a time when Blacks were forced to sit on the back of bus, but classes were fully integrated. I am not about to say that I had Black friends in Elementary school. It was frowned upon. My son has been exposed to the exact opposite of that. I have beat into him the fact that everyone is equal in the eyes of G_d and I will accept no less than that from him. He is a damn good boy.
He did attend public school until the time that the Flower Children teachers began to inundate his little brain with crap that I wouldn't try to sell to a wet brain. I'm sorry if it upsets some people, but I am a Catholic. I believe that homosexuality is wrong. I believe that molesting children is wrong. I believe that killing and selling drugs are wrong as well. To tell my boy that drinking and smoking dope and sleeping with men is okay goes against everything that I know to be the truth, so I snatched him out of public school.
I know that my son understands the sexual act and I know that he will wait until marriage. Did I? Why Hell no. I smoked weed, shot needle dope, drank and ran around with all kinds of women. To tell my son that he should not do the same as I did is NOT hipocritical, it's good parenting. I told him of my mistakes and how it cheapened the experience that I had with my wife, who was everything in the world to me. And worse still, I used up some of the things that I should have saved for her.
For a twenty year old to lecture on the state of affairs in today's youth is not only the sign of thinking that at twenty your opinion is sound, but ignorance in not knowing that your opinion is sure to change. Do you think that I always held the opinions that I do now? I grew up. My thoughts, feelings, and opinions began changing the day that I took responsibility for bringing another human into this tough world.
If you are not a bleeding-heart liberal through your twenties, you have no soul. If you are not evolving into a dyed-in-the-wool conservative in your thirties, you have no brain.
Peace.
UPDATE: No, soundboyz, I am not calling y'all out. The thing about don't tell me how to raise my kid was more in reference to the teacher telling me, "Mr. Mitchell, you have to teach your son these things." My response, "Shut up."
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And another thing Two Dogs.....Do you see my point about these conservatives trying to take the moral high ground about everything? Look at what you did growing up, now did you listen to your parents?So, what the hell makes you think that you can force your boy into doing what you think is right for him.You can certainly try, but like everyone has to learn on their own,NOBODY'S PERFECT!
I did listen to my parents. Remember, I am forty years old. I grew up during the sixties. It was all free love and tolerance. I had to turn away from the things that my parents taught me because of the destuctive behaviors that they did condone.
Catholic priests molest children on a scale of 1/10000th the rate of other men. The stories that you received from the anti-christian media were designed to destroy the church, not report the news. The only molesters that they will not let us hear about are the ones that move into our neighborhoods. My opinion on the Catholic preists that were charged and convicted is that they should be sentenced by their parishoners. Trust me, they would be drawn and quartered and I would gladly help. But anyway, his school is a christian school but not Catholic.
And how do I think that I can force my boy to do what I think is right? I am his Father. Period. Do what I say son or I will punish you. And he has learned better than I ever could have hoped. I guess that I am doing something right. Maybe.
And Imara, thank you for the all caps on CHOOSE. Most people try not to go there. But, I believe as you do. And you do judge; soundboyz and I discussed this previously. You judge every time you choose to hang out with A instead of B. You surround yourself with people that you can identify with, this is judging in ita purist sense.
No one is perfect but that doesn't absolve us of the opportunity to try to be as good a person as humanly possible.
Keep 'em coming folks, we are going to solve all the world's problems. They need it.
Oh, Imara, please don't be offended. You ARE growing into a conservative. Just from reading your earlier post, you should see that.
And I did not understand the comment about dealing with each other. Please elaborate.
Two Dogs ....You sound like a typical Conservative. Just like President Bush, he can smoke dope , snort coke, be a drunkard for the majority of his life and be a womanizer, but when it comes to everybody else, well, these things are wrong. That's Hypocritical!!!I don't advocate anything wrong to children , however i'm a realist, I know that children are going to do things that are wrong.To try and force them into doing what I think is right for them is Hypocritical!!They have to learn , like you and I had to learn.Really, I've always thought of Conservatives as hypocritical fuck ups who try to use the government to force their children into obeying them about shit that they are/were guilty of doing themselves!
If that's what your parents taught you, then I am so sorry, they were wrong in teaching that to a child. This might explain your attitude now! That just explained alot of things Two Dogs. I can see why you feel the way you do.
Actually I did as my parents taught me and then I realized that it was the road to failure. They are far-left liberals and radicals. I rebelled against the status quo and changed my destiny. Returned to college, got a degree with my own money, and more or less changed my life. I do not see the hypocracy in that. It's called growing up.
And if you think that Conservatives are all about using government as a solution to dictating morality, you just haven't been paying attention. It's the left that uses judicial fiat to demand that I recognize homosexuals as a race, more or less. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last President to actually reduce the size of the Constitution and do away with useless Federal Legislation was Ronaldus Magnus Reaganus. RIP, Gipper, you are missed, but go ahead and straighten out Heaven for us.
Oh, and check out the new tagline under the blogname.
>And Imara, thank you for the all caps on CHOOSE. Most people try not to go there. But, I believe as you do
Hey, like I said in one of my previous post.Yes , some homosexuals do CHOOSE that lifestyle, however, you cannot deny the fact that some were born with too little testosterone or too much(in the case of women)which causes them to take on the characteristics of the opposite sex. I have seen this numerous times when I served in the military. To say that they all CHOOSE is to say that they can control science. Hey, they're males, females, hermophrodites and every thing else, so to say that they all CHOOSE, is being nieve.
> Oh, and check out the new tagline under the blogname
Yea, I just saw that before I read this.Ha Ha Haaaaaa! Very Funny!
I am simply saying that any behavior is chosen. Hey why did you pick that shirt? Why did you knock boots with a man? Same difference. (definitely NO HOMO)
Hey , thanks for pointing that out commanche, spelling has never been one of my strongest fortes(DId I Spell that right?)Anyhoo....You can take offense to whatever you like, I have taken offense to a number of things on this blog.Yes ., I have been to a Catholic church, and it felt creepy, like devil worship(not that I know about that)You can try to minimize the Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal all you want, but the fact is ,the number of victims has reached the 1000's and is going up.Now, that might only be a small fraction of the priests involved, however I think there is something wrong with a religion that worships a man!Does POPE 2 or Vatican 2 mean anything?
Oh....and since it's gang up on soundboyz day, why don't you all just think about what your religions would say about that!OH, and I'm not Christian.
I don't get you commanche, now you're saying that you're not up for the religion debate because I'm not Christian? What kind of sense does that make?
The only things that I know about the molestation charges in the church were the three priests charged in the BOSTON Diocese. If they did 1000's, I want the virility drugs they were taking. Northest liberalism left over from the sixties. Back then, the church took a very leftist lean and they accepted anyone into the priesthood. Check it. It's why I am Catholic.
Oh, and comanche only has one "M". Please folks this a very spirited debate. No spelling error stuff to the posters. If you see me misspell one, call it.
I worship NO MAN or Woman. You need to check into your religion more, this POPe wrote an edict or decree or divine law that makes him the subject of worship for all Catholics!
commanche....how did I put you down?
First of all. I did not tell you what to believe.I merely suggested that you look into your religion further. That was not passing judgement. Secondly, I am not a sad person. I am a very TOLERANT person. I do not pass judgement on people because of their race, sex, sexual orientation....etc. I believe in peace, love and understanding of all people. Even if I don't agree with their lifestyles.And yes , you can spell judgment both ways.
I haved lived in Boston, so I know about the Archdioces and the sex scandal first hand. It just seems as if the problem is more wide spread than a few Priests.Forgive me if I insulted your religion. I just have nothing nice to say about child molesters and sexual predators.
The main priest that was charged was known as a street preacher before he was accepted into the priesthood. Far-left liberal. That is not my opinion, it is his own. and yes, conservatives do things wrong as well. The Republican governor in Mississippi back in 1996 cheated on his wife. That's wrong.
Now on to tolerance. The word and concept has been bastardized so badly that it now means permissive. Non-judgmental is bullshit. Call a thing what it is. I am my brother's keeper.
Wow , you mean to tell me that a Republican Governor cheated on his wife?One Republican Governor? Committed adultry? Wow! I don't believe this.I'm gonna save this and send it around to EVERYBODY!!
O.k . let's see....there was Father Shandlin or something like that, Father O'Toole, Father Flannigan, FatherO'mally, Father.....well , i'll look them up , but i'm sure that you're right, they all sound like liberal slimeballs!
I am stating fact about what the church did back in the sixties to increase the number of priests. They relaxed their standards to allow for increased numbers. Those are the priests that are getting into trouble. If I get a chance tonight I'll try to find the names of the priests that have been charged. So far I have only heard of three. And of those three all were brought into the church in the sixties when the relaxed policy took effect. I could be wrong, though.
Yes, a Republican governor cheated on his wife. And if you ask anyone that was hanging with me at the time, they will all tell you that I wanted him to resign, as good as he was as a governor. Mississippi was the first state in the union to operate in the black. But, I don't want my kid to think that I condone that kinda hanky-panky.
Oh, by the way, it only took one term of an elected Democrat to turn our state's fiscal responsibility into a nightmare. We are now facing a huge deficit and debt. Luckily Musgrove only lasted one term and was beaten soundly by Barbour (R).
Oh, and this was my first post to top 30 comments. Yay, folks, y'all are doing a great job. There will be a little something extra in your checks this week.
Imara, what I tried to teach my son was that there are people that will try to steer you the wrong way. Do not let them have the opportunity to continue to influence you. Stay away from the bad people. And there are people that are not willing to admit that they have no idea what they are talking about.
And just because you had a bad experience with others judging you doesn't mean that they were not correct in their judgment. I always tell my kid that if he sees people that he cares for doing the wrong thing, he is supposed to call them out for it. Again, I am my brother's keeper.
Thank God Imara is here....Imara , I really missed you yesterday.As you can see, I really needed you .I'm glad you're here .
I do believe that Jesus was one of the harshest judges ever. And if you would like, I could post some of the curses that he shot out. He was God as man and was here to assure the ones that wanted redemption. Can't do that with some type of moral ambiguity.
^ What she said X 100.I have also had the experience of Catholics and Christians being very judgmental.I just think that both religions do not follow in the traditions of their teachings. When Commanche said that the Catholic church was one of the most accepting place or whatever, I just shook my head. I know first hand, as well as know of people who have had the same experience!To think of the stuff that goes on in these places! I can't understand why Christians are so hypocritical, the bible says Judge not least ye be judged.Exactly, Jesus did not judge, so why are these so called evangalists going around crucifying diffrent people?
I'm sorry, I just can't believe that anyone would have the audacity to say that Jesus did not judge. My Bible must have been written by someone else. Jesus was judge, jury, and executioner. This nonsense about not judging is a moral travesty. 'Judge not, lest you be judged' does NOT mean to not judge people at all. It means that you better have your own shit in one sock before you head out to fight injustice. Come on folks, we are headed for some place that just doesn't make sense to the normal thinking person. and if you think that moral relativism is the way to go, you got another thing coming.
Hey Imara......I cannot tell you how happy it makes me to blog with you . I really mean it. The more we blog together, the more I feel like we are of one mind. This is something that soothes my soul, because sometimes I just can't take the way things are today.I know you are busy , and I definitely know that you got my back.
Hey Commanche...........Friends?
Thank you Commanche......That means alot to me. I know sometimes I get carried away, and I am not smart enough to realize that I am offending others. I mean no disrespect.Sorry if I offended you.
Yes Imara , I would like that very much. Sorry for the delay, this thing is working real slow like.I will post my email back on my blog . Just go to the last post,I think it's about Some Dr. Octavius blog by xplicit.
Oh.....and congrats to Two Dogs for passing the big 50 mark for comments. This is great , however I will post my final manafesto back at Trinity Church within the next day. I think folks might want to check it out. It is sure to raise many eyebrows as well as questions!
Yes! ........Sorry , I spelled it wrong! M a n i f e s t o.
Okay, soundboyz, you can't even call yourself out for misspellings. We just talking so, trust me, I use slang and pronounce words like they be misspelled alla time. And this manifesto thing sounds like an ending. We can't have that. And will everyone quit worrying about upsetting people? We are all adults, maybe, and these discussions are bound to get heated. You will still be my friend afterward. Let's not make this into an apology contest, Jeeeez.
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